Sunday, February 25, 2007

H.R. 1022

I just got an e-mail from the National Rifle Association alerting me to the fact that United States Representative Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) is coming after your firearms.


THE MOST SWEEPING GUN BAN EVER INTRODUCED IN CONGRESS;McCarthy Bill Bans Millions More Guns Than The Clinton Gun Ban
On Feb. 14, 2007, Representative Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) introduced H.R. 1022, a bill with the stated purpose, "to reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes."
McCarthy's verbiage warrants explanation. Presumably, what she means by "assault weapons ban" is the Clinton Gun Ban of 1994. Congress allowed the ban to expire in 2004 for multiple reasons, including the fact that federal, state and local law enforcement agency studies showed that guns affected by the ban had been used in only a small percentage of crime, before and after the ban was imposed.
With the nation's murder rate 43% lower than in 1991, and the re-legalized guns still used in only a small percentage of crime, reauthorizing the Clinton Gun Ban would be objectionable enough. But McCarthy's "other purposes" would make matters even worse. H.R. 1022 would ban every gun banned by the Clinton ban, plus millions more guns, including:
. Every gun made to comply with the Clinton ban. (The Clinton ban dictated the kinds of grips, stocks and attachments new guns could have. Manufacturers modified new guns to the Clinton requirements. H.R. 1022 would ban the modified guns too.)
. Guns exempted by the Clinton ban. (Ruger Mini-14s and -30s and Ranch Rifles; .30 cal. carbines; and fixed-magazine, semi-automatic, center-fire rifles that hold more than 10 rounds.)
. All semi-automatic shotguns. (E.g., Remington, Winchester, Beretta and Benelli, used for hunting, sport shooting, and self-defense. H.R. 1022 would ban them because they have "any characteristic that can function as a grip," and would also ban their main component, called the "receiver.")
. All detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifles-including, for example, the ubiquitous Ruger 10/22 .22 rimfire-because they have "any characteristic that can function as a grip."
. Target shooting rifles. (E.g., the three centerfire rifles most popular for marksmanship competitions: the Colt AR-15, the Springfield M1A and the M1 "Garand.")
. Any semi-automatic shotgun or rifle an Attorney General one day claims isn't "sporting," even though the constitutions of the U.S. and 44 states, and the laws of all 50 states, recognize the right to use guns for defense.
. 65 named guns (the Clinton law banned 19 by name); semi-auto fixed-magazine pistols of over 10 rounds capacity; and frames, receivers and parts used to repair or refurbish guns.
H.R. 1022 would also ban the importation of magazines exempted by the Clinton ban, ban the sale of a legally-owned "assault weapon" with a magazine of over 10 rounds capacity, and begin backdoor registration of guns, by requiring private sales of banned guns, frames, receivers and parts to be conducted through licensed dealers. Finally, whereas the Clinton Gun Ban was imposed for a 10-year trial period, H.R. 1022 would be a permanent ban.


I know firearms owners that were not opposed to the Clinton ban because it didn't effect them. They didn't own anything that was on the ban list. Someone wrote a poem about what can happen when you think like that. The Clinton ban was not reinstated because it didn't work. It did little to nothing to stop crime and save lives. It did take some firearms out of the hands of honest citizens that enjoy hunting, target shooting or collecting. It banned some firearms that people wanted to have around for self and home defense. It did put some law makers that supported it out of work.

If passed H.R. 1022 will outlaw everything that was on the Clinton list and more. Maybe that old shotgun, rifle or pistol Grandpa left you will be on the list.

Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2007 (Introduced in House)
HR 1022 IH
110th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 1022
To reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
February 13, 2007
Mrs. MCCARTHY of New York introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
A BILL
To reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2007'.
SEC. 2. REINSTATEMENT FOR 10 YEARS OF REPEALED CRIMINAL PROVISIONS RELATING TO ASSAULT WEAPONS AND LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.
(a) Reinstatement of Provisions Wholly Repealed- Paragraphs (30) and (31) of section 921(a), subsections (v) and (w) and Appendix A of section 922, and the last 2 sentences of section 923(i) of title 18, United States Code, as in effect just before the repeal made by section 110105(2) of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, are hereby enacted into law.
(b) Reinstatement of Provisions Partially Repealed- Section 924 of title 18, United States Code, is amended--
(1) in subsection (a)(1), by striking subparagraph (B) and inserting the following:
`(B) knowingly violates subsection (a)(4), (f), (k), (r), (v), or (w) of section 922;'; and
(2) in subsection (c)(1)(B), by striking clause (i) and inserting the following:
`(i) is a short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun, or semiautomatic assault weapon, the person shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment of not less than 10 years; or'.
SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.
(a) In General- Section 921(a)(30) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended to read as follows:
`(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means any of the following:
`(A) The following rifles or copies or duplicates thereof:
`(i) AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, Misr, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR;
`(ii) AR-10;
`(iii) AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, or Olympic Arms PCR;
`(iv) AR70;
`(v) Calico Liberty;
`(vi) Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU;
`(vii) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC;
`(viii) Hi-Point Carbine;
`(ix) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, or HK-PSG-1;
`(x) Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;
`(xi) M1 Carbine;
`(xii) Saiga;
`(xiii) SAR-8, SAR-4800;
`(xiv) SKS with detachable magazine;
`(xv) SLG 95;
`(xvi) SLR 95 or 96;
`(xvii) Steyr AUG;
`(xviii) Sturm, Ruger Mini-14;
`(xix) Tavor;
`(xx) Thompson 1927, Thompson M1, or Thompson 1927 Commando; or
`(xxi) Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz).
`(B) The following pistols or copies or duplicates thereof:
`(i) Calico M-110;
`(ii) MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3;
`(iii) Olympic Arms OA;
`(iv) TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10; or
`(v) Uzi.
`(C) The following shotguns or copies or duplicates thereof:
`(i) Armscor 30 BG;
`(ii) SPAS 12 or LAW 12;
`(iii) Striker 12; or
`(iv) Streetsweeper.
`(D) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine, and that has--
`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
`(ii) a threaded barrel;
`(iii) a pistol grip;
`(iv) a forward grip; or
`(v) a barrel shroud.
`(E)(i) Except as provided in clause (ii), a semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
`(ii) Clause (i) shall not apply to an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.
`(F) A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has--
`(i) a second pistol grip;
`(ii) a threaded barrel;
`(iii) a barrel shroud; or
`(iv) the capacity to accept a detachable magazine at a location outside of the pistol grip.
`(G) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
`(H) A semiautomatic shotgun that has--
`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
`(ii) a pistol grip;
`(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine; or
`(iv) a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds.
`(I) A shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
`(J) A frame or receiver that is identical to, or based substantially on the frame or receiver of, a firearm described in any of subparagraphs (A) through (I) or (L).
`(K) A conversion kit.
`(L) A semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General. In making the determination, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any Federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.'.
(b) Related Definitions- Section 921(a) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following:
`(36) Barrel Shroud- The term `barrel shroud' means a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel of a firearm so that the shroud protects the user of the firearm from heat generated by the barrel, but does not include a slide that encloses the barrel, and does not include an extension of the stock along the bottom of the barrel which does not encircle or substantially encircle the barrel.
`(37) Conversion Kit- The term `conversion kit' means any part or combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a firearm into a semiautomatic assault weapon, and any combination of parts from which a semiautomatic assault weapon can be assembled if the parts are in the possession or under the control of a person.
`(38) Detachable Magazine- The term `detachable magazine' means an ammunition feeding device that can readily be inserted into a firearm.
`(39) Fixed Magazine- The term `fixed magazine' means an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm.
`(40) Folding or Telescoping Stock- The term `folding or telescoping stock' means a stock that folds, telescopes, or otherwise operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability, of a firearm.
`(41) Forward Grip- The term `forward grip' means a grip located forward of the trigger that functions as a pistol grip.
`(42) Pistol Grip- The term `pistol grip' means a grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.
`(43) Threaded Barrel- The term `threaded barrel' means a feature or characteristic that is designed in such a manner to allow for the attachment of a firearm as defined in section 5845(a) of the National Firearms Act (26 U.S.C. 5845(a)).'.
SEC. 4. GRANDFATHER PROVISION.
Section 922(v)(2) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended--
(1) by inserting `(A)' after `(2)'; and
(2) by adding after and below the end the following:
`(B) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to any firearm the possession or transfer of which would (but for this subparagraph) be unlawful by reason of this subsection, and which is otherwise lawfully possessed on the date of the enactment of this subparagraph.'.
SEC. 5. REPEAL OF CERTAIN EXEMPTIONS.
Section 922(v)(3) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended by striking `(3)' and all that follows through the 1st sentence and inserting the following:
`(3) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to any firearm that--
`(A) is manually operated by bolt, pump, level, or slide action;
`(B) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or
`(C) is an antique firearm.'.
SEC. 6. REQUIRING BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR THE TRANSFER OF LAWFULLY POSSESSED SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS.
Section 922(v) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following:
`(5) It shall be unlawful for any person to transfer a semiautomatic assault weapon to which paragraph (1) does not apply, except through--
`(A) a licensed dealer, and for purposes of subsection (t) in the case of such a transfer, the weapon shall be considered to be transferred from the business inventory of the licensed dealer and the dealer shall be considered to be the transferor; or
`(B) a State or local law enforcement agency if the transfer is made in accordance with the procedures provided for in subsection (t) of this section and section 923(g).
`(6) The Attorney General shall establish and maintain, in a timely manner, a record of the make, model, and date of manufacture of any semiautomatic assault weapon which the Attorney General is made aware has been used in relation to a crime under Federal or State law, and the nature and circumstances of the crime involved, including the outcome of relevant criminal investigations and proceedings. The Attorney General shall annually submit the record to the Congress and make the record available to the general public.'.
SEC. 7. STRENGTHENING THE BAN ON THE POSSESSION OR TRANSFER OF A LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE.
(a) Ban on Transfer of Semiautomatic Assault Weapon With Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device-
(1) IN GENERAL- Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after subsection (y) the following:
`(z) It shall be unlawful for any person to transfer any assault weapon with a large capacity ammunition feeding device.'.
(2) PENALTIES- Section 924(a) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following:
`(8) Whoever knowingly violates section 922(z) shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.'.
(b) Certification Requirement-
(1) IN GENERAL- Section 922(w) of such title, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended--
(A) in paragraph (3)--
(i) by adding `or' at the end of subparagraph (B); and
(ii) by striking subparagraph (C) and redesignating subparagraph (D) as subparagraph (C); and
(B) by striking paragraph (4) and inserting the following:
`(4) It shall be unlawful for a licensed manufacturer, licensed importer, or licensed dealer who transfers a large capacity ammunition feeding device that was manufactured on or before the date of the enactment of this subsection, to fail to certify to the Attorney General before the end of the 60-day period that begins with the date of the transfer, in accordance with regulations prescribed by the Attorney General, that the device was manufactured on or before the date of the enactment of this subsection.'.
(2) PENALTIES- Section 924(a) of such title, as amended by subsection (a)(2) of this section, is amended by adding at the end the following:
`(9) Whoever knowingly violates section 922(w)(4) shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.'.
SEC. 8. UNLAWFUL WEAPONS TRANSFERS TO JUVENILES.
Section 922(x) of title 18, United States Code, is amended--
(1) in paragraph (1)--
(A) in subparagraph (B), by striking the period and inserting a semicolon; and
(B) by adding at the end the following:
`(C) a semiautomatic assault weapon; or
`(D) a large capacity ammunition feeding device.'; and
(2) in paragraph (2)--
(A) in subparagraph (B), by striking the period and inserting a semicolon; and
(B) by adding at the end the following:
`(C) a semiautomatic assault weapon; or
`(D) a large capacity ammunition feeding device.'.
SEC. 9. BAN ON IMPORTATION OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE.
(a) In General- Section 922(w) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended--
(1) in paragraph (1), by striking `(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2)' and inserting `(1)(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B)';
(2) in paragraph (2), by striking `(2) Paragraph (1)' and inserting `(B) Subparagraph (A)'; and
(3) by inserting before paragraph (3) the following:
`(2) It shall be unlawful for any person to import or bring into the United States a large capacity ammunition feeding device.'.
(b) Conforming Amendment- Section 921(a)(31)(A) of such title, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended by striking `manufactured after the date of enactment of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994'.


If passed H.R. 1022 won't go away in a few years like the Clinton ban. It will be here to stay and be used as a stepping stone when the gun grabbers come for more. The plan is to disarm the country. That is one step toward total control.

Please contact your United States representative and urge him or her to oppose H.R. 1022. If necessary remind them of what happened to some of the supporters of the Clinton gun grab.

Thanks go to:
the National Rifle Association

God Bless America, God Save The Republic.

87 Comments:

Blogger Anne Rettenberg LCSW said...

You may remember that Carolyn McCarthy was elected to Congress after her husband was killed and her son maimed in the Long Island Railroad Massacre, in which a deranged yet functional man named Colin Ferguson walked down the aisle of the train shooting people (I take this train frequently by the way). Maybe you're right that we should just tighten who gets to buy guns (although actually you didn't address that issue) but who's going to do all the psychological evaluations and review them, for prospective gun owners? Would you pay $2,000 for a psychological evaluation for a gun license, or would you consider that am imposition on your rights?

Actually that might not work either. A couple years ago I did a review of a case for my consulting job. The case involved a young man who was having a breakdown; his parents kept a rifle and ammunition in the house and he picked up the loaded rifle and began shooting at the neighbor's car; fortunately no one was in it at the time. Of course you could make it illegal to keep a gun in a home shared with someone who's mentally ill, but does that mean if you own a gun you can't invite anyone with a mental health history over to your home? And what counts as a mental health history?
There are a lot, I mean a lot, of crazy people out there. If you have some good ideas about how to keep guns out of their hands, please share them.

2:16 PM  
Blogger -Q said...

Ugh. I can't stand ignorance in the congress. The most annoying part is how they name all the guns that are popularly known, and say 'we now declare this evil looking gun to be bad', and then throw in a few more random gun saftey and comfort features to make it sound like they know what they are doing. Whats so bad about a forward grip anyway? And yes, I can easily conceal my M4 if I retract the stock by 3 inches!

I could go on forever. How about at least they start a bill that tries to limit crime. Also, how about they don't plagarise the old one?

If I see this thing blink anywhere outside of commitee, my Rep is going to need a new secretary.

8:49 PM  
Blogger The Sovereign Editor said...

Thanks for alerting me to this. I will be writing my Congressman, although I know that he will be voting against it already.

We really need to try to amend the Constitution to allow citizens to sue to remove congress-critters that try to pas laws contrary to the Constitution. That's the only way we will ever stop them from trying things like this. After all, it's not like they're policing themselves... H.R. 1022 is a prime example of this fact.

8:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"There are a lot, I mean a lot, of crazy people out there. If you have some good ideas about how to keep guns out of their hands, please share them."

Shouldn't we ban cars first then? They cause more deaths than guns do and crazy people have much more access to cars than firearms.

Guns are a tool. Crazy people and criminals will still find ways to get them, even if you make them illegal for everyone else. The difference is, only the crazies will be armed at that point. What we need is to go the other way; remove the current restrictions so that people can defend themselves.

4:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Elizabeth, here recently a drunk driver killed a whole family. This story happens every day across the US. Should we ban alcohol, or maybe even cars? Banning cars would definitely prevent needless deaths AND reduce global warming. Alcohol kills and maims more people every year than do firearms. Heck, global warming may kill us all! But, prohibition didn't work, and I doubt we'll give up our cars. We now choose to educate people about the danger of drunk driving and enforce laws against criminal violation. We try to carpool or buy more efficinet vehicles etc. I agree, we need creative solutions for our problems, but "banning" things will only slowly erode our freedoms. Even if it's not something you personnaly enjoy, that doesn't mean it's not a freedom. Education and enlightenment are the true long term solutions to our problems. Along with solid law enforcemnt and justice for thise who break the law. Only if you attack the root cause of a problem will it ever be truly solved. Guns are not the root cause of crime. Economics, education (lack of), chemical addictions and drugs, undiagnosed mental conditions etc, those are root causes, or at least closer to them. Just some food for thought.

6:48 PM  
Blogger The Sovereign Editor said...

Sal Culosi was gunned down in cold blood by a cop. Maybe we should ban cops... or maybe just SWAT teams.

2:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am from Canada, where the many city people shoved gun control down the rural people's throats. It can be dangerous in the woods too! Now that the city people in Canada as polite citizens gave up their guns Toronto has become a jungle of gun violence and no law-abiding citizen can resist (point of 2A in Bill of Rights). Point: Carolyn McCarthy's family as well as many others might still be alive if you could actually own a gun in NY City (How the perpetrator got one I don't know?)and took their 2A rights seriously and trained to defend themselves against evil which will always exist, gun bans or not. Gun bans are stupid and the "ARMS" in the 2A is not about hunting, but about military high-capacity weapons to keep government (George III) humble. Power to the people!

5:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am very disturbed. If Clinton gets elected, it is all over for gun rights. At what point will that switch from illegal to sell to illegal to possess? I hate to use the cliché slippery slope idea, but it really is true.

4:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

April 19th, 1775, when the British came to relieve American colonists of their arms, they were shot.
This is celebrated as patriots day, not 9/11 as has been changed on the calender.
That is the line in the sand to the true patriot.
HR 1022 is the tyrants coming after your arms.
Say no. Resist.
And if perhaps all of the bad people who are trying to kill you, aka, criminals cannot be stopped by our politicians, then we need to be responsible enough to protect ourselves - with firearms.

12:13 PM  
Blogger Proud American Patriot said...

When I talk to my friends about this they say "It's time to hide our guns." I say if the government tries to take our guns it is time to use them to defend our rights. That is what the 2A was written for.

6:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was asked what did I think of gun control.

My answer: I want the gun, so I can have the control

10:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't mean to post anon, but I don't have google account or a webpage.

Q, HR1022 doesn't plagarise the old Clinton ban, it reinstates and amends it. The new law makes reference to the old.

Also, if you think a folding stock is a threat, look at bullpups. There's a company about to remake the old AUG.

12:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Elizabeth brought up a valid point. You did nothing to even try to pretend to address it. Look at the VT Massacre, that guy was crazy, he should not have been allowed to buy a gun, but because of a bureaucratic fu-- er i mean hiccup, he slipped through the cracks and bought his guns "legally". Banning cars does not solve the problem, are you a retard? If someone asks a question you do not know the answer to, maybe you should say, "I don't know, lets find the answer together, not change the subject and point to some other nonsensical unrelated stupid crap like "maybe we should ban cars, cars kill people too". Thats just idiotic. Anyone who can't defend their pro gun position with either legal precedent, the constitution or even reasonable ideology, should just shut up and let the nice folks at the NRA speak for you. Edwin: "I say if the government tries to take our guns it is time to use them to defend our rights. That is what the 2A was written for." Edwin please STFU, you are so not helping the movement. Let Brian speak for you he can put complete sentences together. On a final note, H.R. 1022 is a very bad thing, its worse than AWB in '94, I was sad then because I wasn't even old enough to vote, the Repubs had the power to let the sunset fall on the AWB, unfortunately they did alot of other things wrong and many are now "in between projects" as it were. I fear that the democratic majority will not be able to pass such a restrictive bill, but I doubt W has the balls or the brains to veto it. I just hope the remaining conservatives can get their act together and keep their jobs. Too many libs is a bad thing.

10:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anyone watch the Tucker Carlson interview with Carolyn McCarthy about the ban. When Tucker Carlson asked " do you know what a barrel shroud is" McCarthy replied "I actually don't know what a barrel shroud is. I believe it is a shoulder thing that goes up." WOW she might be one of the most ignorant people I have ever seen. You would think if she is going pass legislation that would drastically effect our nation and the second amendment that she would at least do her home work. I personally feel "more stupider" just by watching her. Whether you are pro gun or anti gun it is worth watching. And if your anti-gun you should feel proud that you have such great and knowledgeable representatives working for you. It is on you tube under Carolyn McCarthy.

10:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said..., I would like to hear why you think that using the phrase "maybe we should ban cars, cars kill people too" is "idiotic." How is one tool different than another? Your argument can only be true because of the context of its use. I’m sure most drunk drivers do not intend to hurt anyone. When a tool is used to commit a crime does it matter what has been used? The better analogy would have been “road raged” citizens killing people in comparison to guns killing people. Enraged citizen constantly use there vehicles as weapons. I think the pot is calling the kettle black! You put it very well in your blog “Banning cars does not solve the problem” and neither does banning guns. Unfortunately, there are not a lot of precedents regarding the banning of firearms. There are roughly only 15 cases that directly involve the Supreme Court with regards to the 2nd amendment. (U.S. v. Cruikshank (1876), Presser v. People of Illinois (1886), Miller v. Texas (1894), U.S. v. Miller (1939), Lewis v. U.S. (1980).) (a) The way to prevent gun violence is through education and not reform. The AIDS epidemic of the 80’s and 90’s was a prime example of how education can change the course of a country. The number of deaths has drastically been reduced. I remember in my 5th grade elementary class my teacher showing us the effects of the disease. Luck for me it change my perception of sex and how it could effect me. If not for those classes my penis would have probably fallen off. These same principles can be used to combat gun violence. Also, there was no “bureaucratic fu-- er i mean hiccup.” Every company involved in selling firearms and ammunition, to the VT shooter, did everything they were supposed to do. No one can predict when a person will go a-wall. For all I know someone could call you names and you could go shoot thirty people. These horrible events are the cost of freedom. For anyone to think that legislation and reform can positively prevent these kinds of attacks is ludicrous. The police had 2 hours to stop Cho Seung-Hiu. In two hours someone could have killed thirty people with a spoon, shovel, and a bat the list goes on and on. If we want to stay on topic someone could have used a single shot .22L.R. and killed thirty people, which would’ve made this ban pointless. Cho’s intent to kill was evident and he would have used whatever tool he had at his disposal. Unfortunately, banning guns has far wide implication than just stopping incidents like VT. Americans need a way to protect ourselves from foreign and domestic tyrants. At this point in time firearms are the best tools at our disposal. Otherwise, one of these days we could be relocated to one our friendly neighborhood gas chamber.



a.) Supreme Court opinions on the right to arms. 2000-2004 Second Amendment Law Library October 3, 1999 constitution.org/2ll/2ndcourt/supreme/2ndsupm_index.

1:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aids awareness led you to justify your inability to get laid and actually made you feel good about your addiction to porn and masterbating? If i read that correctly. Frank, you are worse than all the other idiots on this post combined. Get your facts straight. Cho used a Walther P22, and a Glock 19 neither of which is a single shot. If he had been using a spon or shovel, a 60 year old guard with pepper spray could have stopped him. There were two major screw ups that allowed him to get away with his rampage. The first is laws that are already in place, laws that regulate how you and I already buy our guns. See, Cho was already ordered to seek outpatient treatment by a court, the problem is that the state agency responsible for reporting that information to the feds dropped the ball. Which is why the VA governor issued an executive order to correct that little fup uck. The second error was on the part of the school who actually pushed the legislature into voting down a bill that would stop public universities from banning students with concealed carry permits from carrying guns in class. VA Tech had such a policy. Boy are there faces red. Here are two in formative articles. please read them before attempting another uninformed reply. http://www.oag.state.va.us/PRESS_RELEASES/NewsArchive/043007_Loophole.html
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-50658

8:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i am glad to see this anonymous guy is soooo damned smart. what a self rightous guy huh. the point it that the 2nd amendment is about the right to bear arms period. if you dont like it than leave this country you communist shit

1:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not "soooo damned smart", I'm fucking smart, got it? "The 2nd amendment is about the right to bear arms period". I'll let you have that one, even though it is written so ambiguously that it is open for debate. For the sake of argument lets pretend it guarantees a pistol in every nightstand, and a shotgun in every pickup truck. There is still a percentage of the population that should not possess guns. So that creates a need for laws. The entire rest of the constitution guarantees a process by which those laws are made for the protection of all people and their rights. If you don't like that then maybe you should leave you ignorant communist shit.

2:42 PM  
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